我有一篇sci论文正在naature投稿,现在一个reviewer 问了一个棘手的问题:Is the...

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我有一篇sci论文正在naature投稿,现在一个reviewer 问了一个棘手的问题:Is there any biological significance to the 10% of genes that are co-regulated by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1 (line 144). The same for the 27% of genes that have increased readthrough in both fip1 and pap1?我在文章中仅通过In fy, cpsf30, and fip1 mutants, hundreds of protein-coding genes showed significant increases in TW length compared to WT (Fig. 1e). About 10% of these genes were co-regulated by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1 (Fig. S3a, Fig. S3b). 和There was a 27% overlap in genes with increased readthrough in both fip1 and paps1 mutants (Fig. S3c), suggesting a potential interaction between FIP1 and PAPS1 in promoting transcription termination.来描述我的数据,现在面对这个问题我已经写了一版response,请对其进行修改,使reviewer能够满意:
Reply: We appreciate the reviewer for this insightful question. The 10% overlap of genes co-regulated by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1, along with the 27% overlap of genes showing increased readthrough in both fip1 and pap1 mutants, suggests a potential biological significance. However, while our data highlight these relationships, it is important to note that overlaps alone cannot establish causality. This limited overlap may be attributed to the distinct functional roles of these components in recognizing different polyadenylation signals (PAS).

The 75% overlap between genes with increased readthrough in cstf64 and cstf77 mutants supports the idea that the CstF complex operates as a tightly coordinated unit, regulating a set of genes with substantial overlap. In contrast, the 10% overlap among CPSF-regulated genes for FY, CPSF30, and FIP1 highlights differences between these complexes. While the CstF complex functions as a tightly coupled unit, the CPSF components exhibit modular flexibility, adapting to a variety of PAS contexts. The lower overlap among CPSF components suggests functional modularity within the CPSF complex, which may reflect the recognition of different PAS sequences and the regulation of distinct gene sets. The more heterogeneous nature of the CPSF complex, compared to the more unified CstF complex, likely stems from its involvement in recognizing a wider range of PAS motifs.

For example, FY and CPSF30 recognize canonical PAS motifs (e.g., AAUAAA), while FIP1 binds U-rich sequences downstream of the PAS and recruits poly(A) polymerase (PAPS1) to facilitate efficient polyadenylation. It is possible that these genes rely on the efficient assembly of the CPSF complex to ensure optimal transcription termination and avoid readthrough, which could prevent transcriptional interference or the generation of aberrant transcripts. The 10% overlap of genes co-regulated by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1 suggests that these genes may be particularly sensitive to CPSF complex regulation. However, the relatively low overlap in the co-regulated gene set implies that these factors may work together to control specific gene subsets, rather than universally influencing all genes. In contrast, the CstF complex, with its more conserved recognition of PAS sequences downstream of the poly(A) site, likely plays a more consistent regulatory role across a broader set of genes. This highlights the specialized roles of the CPSF and CstF complexes in coordinating transcription termination for different gene sets.

The 27% overlap between the genes with increased readthrough in both fip1 and paps1 mutants further suggests a complex relationship between the factors that regulate transcription termination. The overlap is modest, which implies that PAPS1 and FIP1 likely regulate distinct subsets of genes. FIP1 is known to bridge CPSF and poly(A) polymerases in both yeast and humans, recruiting PAPS1 to polyadenylation. However, in Arabidopsis, the relatively low overlap between FIP1- and PAPS1-regulated genes indicates that PAPS1's role in termination is not entirely dependent on FIP1. This suggests that PAPS1 may act through additional pathways or interact with other factors involved in the termination process, possibly in a way that is independent of FIP to regulate termination.

In summary, the CstF complex operates in a more tightly coordinated manner, while the CPSF complex, with its diverse roles, likely interacts with a wider array of regulatory pathways, including those involving FIP1 and PAPS1. These observations highlight the complexity and specificity of transcription termination regulation in Arabidopsis. While there is some overlap in the regulation by different factors, each factor or complex may regulate distinct subsets of genes, underscoring the intricate and finely tuned nature of pre-mRNA processing.

We have revised the Discussion section to better clarify the potential implications:

For the 10% of genes co-regulated by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1, this limited overlap suggests that these factors may act together to control a specific subset of genes that are particularly sensitive to CPSF complex regulation. Their joint control may ensure optimal transcription termination and prevent readthrough transcription, which could otherwise lead to transcriptional interference or the generation of aberrant transcripts. The relatively small gene set may reflect the distinct roles these components play in recognizing different polyadenylation signals (PAS) and recruiting specific processing factors.

In contrast, the 27% overlap of genes showing increased readthrough in both fip1 and paps1 mutants indicates a more complex regulatory relationship. This modest overlap implies that while FIP1 and PAPS1 may influence some common targets, they largely regulate distinct gene subsets. In Arabidopsis, FIP1 is thought to bridge CPSF and poly(A) polymerases, whereas PAPS1 might also act through additional pathways or interact with other factors during termination. This suggests that PAPS1’s role in termination is not entirely dependent on FIP1 and may involve other regulatory mechanisms.

Overall, these observations highlight the complexity of transcription termination regulation in Arabidopsis. The differential overlap between gene sets regulated by various factors—such as those in the CPSF and CstF complexes—suggests that each factor or complex contributes uniquely to termination. Rather than acting redundantly, these factors appear to participate in multiple, partially overlapping pathways that fine-tune the regulation of gene expression.

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Your response is generally well-written, but I will offer some adjustments to enhance clarity and address the reviewer's concerns more directly. The goal is to ensure that the biological significance of the findings is clear and well-supported, while making sure that the explanation of the overlaps is both accessible and scientifically rigorous. Here's a revised version:


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We thank the reviewer for this insightful question. The 10% overlap of genes co-regulated by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1, along with the 27% overlap of genes with increased readthrough in both fip1 and pap1 mutants, indeed suggests potential biological significance. However, as the reviewer correctly pointed out, overlaps alone cannot confirm causality, and the functional relevance of these overlaps warrants further exploration.

In our study, we observed that hundreds of protein-coding genes exhibited significant increases in transcriptional readthrough in mutants of FY, CPSF30, and FIP1 (Fig. 1e), highlighting their involvement in transcription termination regulation. The 10% overlap of co-regulated genes by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1 (Fig. S3a, Fig. S3b) could suggest a specific set of genes that are highly sensitive to CPSF complex regulation, and the relatively low overlap may reflect the modular and flexible nature of the CPSF complex. Unlike the tightly coordinated CstF complex, which regulates genes through a more conserved mechanism (e.g., the 75% overlap in cstf64 and cstf77 mutants), the CPSF components may interact with a broader array of polyadenylation signals (PAS), indicating a more complex and nuanced regulatory role. This modularity within CPSF may contribute to its regulation of distinct gene sets, as the components—such as FY and CPSF30, which recognize canonical PAS motifs, and FIP1, which binds U-rich sequences downstream—each play specific, complementary roles in transcription termination.

It is likely that genes co-regulated by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1 are particularly dependent on the optimal assembly of the CPSF complex for proper transcription termination. This could prevent transcriptional readthrough, which, if unregulated, might lead to aberrant transcripts and interfere with normal transcriptional processes. However, the relatively small proportion of genes in this subset (10%) suggests that these factors may be involved in the regulation of a specific subset of genes, rather than universally influencing all genes.

The 27% overlap of genes showing increased readthrough in both fip1 and paps1 mutants (Fig. S3c) further suggests a complex interaction between these two factors. While the modest overlap hints at a potential regulatory relationship, the distinct gene subsets regulated by each factor point to independent, or at least partially independent, roles for FIP1 and PAPS1 in transcription termination. FIP1, known for its role in bridging CPSF and poly(A) polymerases, recruits PAPS1 to the polyadenylation site, yet the lower overlap between FIP1- and PAPS1 genes suggests that PAPS1 may also function through alternative pathways or in conjunction with other factors. This could imply that PAPS1's role in termination is not entirely dependent on FIP1 in Arabidopsis, underscoring the complexity of termination regulation.

In summary, the CstF complex operates more as a tightly coordinated unit, whereas the CPSF complex, due to its functional modularity, interacts with a broader spectrum of PAS contexts and regulatory factors. The modest overlap observed between the genes regulated by FIP1 and PAPS1 further supports the idea that these factors, while interacting, also function through distinct regulatory mechanisms. These observations highlight the intricate and specialized nature of transcription termination regulation in Arabidopsis, where different factors contribute to finely tuned control over gene expression.

We have revised the Discussion section to better clarify these points and the potential implications of the observed overlaps:

Revised Discussion:
For the 10% of genes co-regulated by FY, CPSF30, and FIP1, the limited overlap suggests that these factors may act together to regulate a specific subset of genes that are particularly sensitive to CPSF complex control. Their joint regulation likely ensures optimal transcription termination, preventing readthrough transcription, which could otherwise lead to the generation of aberrant transcripts. This relatively small gene set reflects the specific roles of these components in recognizing different polyadenylation signals (PAS) and recruiting specific processing factors.

In contrast, the 27% overlap of genes showing increased readthrough in both fip1 and paps1 mutants points to a more complex regulatory relationship. This overlap suggests that while FIP1 and PAPS1 may share some common targets, they predominantly regulate distinct subsets of genes. FIP1 serves as a bridge between CPSF and poly(A) polymerases, while PAPS1 may also act through alternative pathways or interact with other factors during transcription termination. These findings suggest that PAPS1’s role in termination is not entirely dependent on FIP1, highlighting the diverse mechanisms that contribute to transcriptional regulation in Arabidopsis.

Overall, our findings emphasize the complexity of transcription termination regulation, with different factors—such as those within the CPSF and CstF complexes—each playing unique and specialized roles. The observed overlaps suggest that while these factors may regulate some common targets, their effects are often context-specific, contributing to the fine-tuned regulation of gene expression.


This revision aims to better articulate the biological significance of the findings and provides a clearer explanation of how the observed overlaps might be interpreted in the context of transcription regulation. It also strengthens the argument by drawing a clearer distinction between the modular nature of the CPSF complex and the more unified role of the CstF complex.

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