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Comparing攻石 and 追石 mechanics

When comparing attack stones (攻石) vs additional damage stones (追石), examples show how they impact different weapons. For instance, with no doctor buff, the white weapon hits 100; adding攻石 +60 makes the gun/doctor reach 160 and sword/knife 166, while adding追石 +80 boosts them all to 180. These stones affect different jobs differently, especially regarding critical and连环 attack bonuses.

As for class-specific formulas in PVE, the calculation for each differs depending on weapon and class-specific mechanics.

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Deciding if web call is needed for formula answer

I think I don’t need to call the web again. The user wants an Excel formula version based on what was already given, so I can reuse existing details. But since my earlier response fetched web data, should I include citations? I’ll probably avoid web calls unless facts need updating — just focusing on formatting.

Organizing Excel formula setup and assumptions

I don’t need to use the web for this since it’s based on previously discussed formulas. I’ll just provide an Excel template and layout for the user. I’ll include assumptions like attack, defense, hit, skill power, etc. Also, I’ll explain inputs as decimal or percentage and format everything for easy use, with formulas for different cases.

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Looking up basic attack formula

I want to search for the basic attack formula, possibly using keywords like "攻减防" to find relevant info. That should give me some useful results. Let's see if I can find a good explanation of how attack and defense calculations work. I'll look into it.Checking historical formulas and recent updates

I’m thinking of checking historical attack formulas and making a note that I can’t fully verify the current official servers. Maybe I should browse recent forums to see if the formula is still the same. Looking up terms like "火10 历史版本" and "雪原刀" might help. I’ll focus on posts from 2020 or later.Looking into official and community attack formulas

I should ignore dubious online calculator sites and mention them as unreliable. Official patch notes likely don’t have a clear formula, so I’ll rely on community formulas like those from Bahamut and 17173, with a caveat. I need to focus on "基础攻击" and search for the normal attack formula, maybe simplifying a 2007 article to include crit with multipliers. I'll search for "平射" specifically.Looking for modern bow formulas

I came across some interesting claims on Tieba about 弓 (bows), like "2命=1攻击" and 气功 after opening a group. But the user asked for all formulas, not just this. I think I can mention how modern 弓 formulas might differ. I’ll search for 徐福测评 or specifically look for "弓公式图" in modern forums.Confirming modern bow formulas

The search yielded some useful recent information, though it might not give the full formula. I could use the 2026 Tieba summary to confirm that the 弓 open-group action is still treated as 平射, and that skill damage is additional without multipliers. I should cite it if I mention, but the snippet might be detailed enough to skip opening the page. Maybe I’ll just continue the search.

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Looking for modern attack formulas of other classes

Now I’m thinking it might be helpful to find similar details for normal attack formulas from other classes. I could start by searching for "平A公式 热血江湖" for potentially simpler answers. I might also check 2026 Tieba for discussions related to sword or doctor classes.Explaining attack formula with caveats

I’ll provide a formula with the caveat: “The following formulas widely circulated in the player community are unofficial and based on classic nostalgia logic. Modern official servers may use different calculations for certain features or newer classes.” For "基础攻击," I'll clarify it's often interpreted as the "base attack" or "defense breaking" component in formulas. I'll mention how panel attack is derived indirectly, based on available sources.Explaining attack and defense formula details

When considering the common formulas in skills, the damage is affected by factors like target defense reduction and flat attack or skill adjustments. For example, "基础攻击" could be expressed as (Attack - Defense) × 1.5. Bow classes benefit more from accuracy compared to others, with modern player tests summarizing that "弓2命约等于1攻".Clarifying damage formula structure

I need to structure the formula in a way that addresses basic attack, skill power, hit adjustments, extra damage, and defense terms. The simplified version could be: Final Damage ≈ Basic Attack + Skill Power + Hit Bonus + Extra Damage - Target Defense. For different classes, there are specific variations, like adjustments based on weapons and hit mechanics, with bows using accuracy differently. Some techniques have additional multipliers.Explaining weapon attribute effects and calculations

From 17173: Poison (毒3) adds +3 attack and synergizes with attack-boosting Qigong, yielding higher values for sword/knife/bow. For doctors/guns, the damage increase is smaller. External damage (外3) gives a fixed +3, similar to Poison but without synergy. Internal bonuses, like 0.5% for some classes, scale with skill power.Clarifying simplified attack formula and terms

The formula for damage includes various components. For non-bow classes: (Attack + Hit/5 - Target Defense) × 1.5. For bows: (Attack + Hit/2 - Target Defense) × 1.5. This simplifies the "basic attack" or "damage reduction" segment. The formula adjustments for weapon stones, skills, and buffs are also factored in.Clarifying ordinary and skill-based attack formulas

The formula for ordinary hits seems to only involve Attack - Defense + Additional Damage + Hit Modifiers, while skill damage adds Skill Power × (1 + Weapon Skill %), with a 1.5x multiplier. Although official formula sources are hard to find for all classes, I can share commonly used player-derived methods with specifics for archers.Explaining damage formula details and some unknowns

When calculating weapon damage, formulas vary by class, such as S × (1 + 乾坤%) for guns and S + Attack_eff × 0.2 for knives. It's useful to note that 1% internal energy adds directly to skill damage, and weapons may include additional damage from stones or accessories. Also, hit rate adjustments differ by class—archery modifies by half, others by a fifth. There are still unknowns, particularly newer classes like 韩飞官 that aren't always included in older formulas.

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Rethinking search results

The search gave me a 403 error, so it's not worth continuing. Maybe I should cite snippets directly if it’s relevant—though I'm not sure if mentioning 乐师 or similar would help. I can try looking for attack formulas in the official game encyclopedia, but that's probably unlikely.Finding useful formulas

I came across an interesting official archive on rxjh.17game.com that seems to have formulas. I should open it up to see if it contains anything useful for the task at hand. Let's check it out!

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Exploring alternative methods

The page timed out when I tried opening it. Maybe I should try clicking through from the official site instead. It might be more stable, or I could search directly for the exact title to see if that brings up a more accessible result. Worth trying!Finding a useful guide

I found the official 2006 guide with the regular formulas! This looks like exactly what I need. Now I just need to open the result from search 0 to verify the details and make sure I have all the information I need. Let's take a closer look!

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Adjusting search for more precision

It seems the page timed out, but the snippet from the official site gives me enough information for now. Still, I think I need more details on the exact formula, maybe focusing on weapon skills. I’ll conduct another search for official guides, particularly around the formula related to weapons.Refining search for exact formula

The search snippets from the official site seem sufficient for now! I think the second snippet about the comparison of "攻石" and "追加石" could help with the normal formulas. The first snippet might be from the same page, just different text. I’ll now search for the exact phrase “普通攻击=G-F+Z.”Refining search for profession-specific formulas

The information from the official snippet is helpful! Now, I think I need more details from the official source regarding skill formulas by profession. I'll search for the exact phrase “剑的武功伤害” to try to find specific data on sword skills and damage.Clarifying weapon attack inclusion

I found an interesting official snippet from 200508 regarding whether 武功攻击 includes 追加. It’s worth diving into further. I think I need to search for the exact phrase to ensure I get the most relevant information on this. Let's search again with more specific terms!Looking for complete formulas

The search result snippet might include the official formulas, but I’m wondering if it's truncated. It could be enough if I only mention sword and knife, but I’d prefer the full details. I should try a more targeted search using “枪的武功伤害” to get the full information.Refining search for weapon formulas

The search result gave good examples of attack vs. added damage, but I might need official snippets for the normal formulas and examples. It could help to search for exact weapon stone comparisons, including skill formulas. The snippet for sword and knife formulas might be enough. I’ll search for other results with "1.2" to find gun/doctor formulas.Clarifying gun mechanics and formula changes

We likely have enough for the user’s request, but I should mention that the 2025 update made some changes to gun mechanics—like increasing splash damage from 50% to 80% when certain skills trigger. If the user expects the latest formulas, I’ll need to note that older formulas may not apply due to these changes. Modern patch notes confirm some mechanics shifted, so I’ll include citations for those updates. It's important to exercise caution.Comparing攻石 and 追石 mechanics

When comparing attack stones (攻石) vs additional damage stones (追石), examples show how they impact different weapons. For instance, with no doctor buff, the white weapon hits 100; adding攻石 +60 makes the gun/doctor reach 160 and sword/knife 166, while adding追石 +80 boosts them all to 180. These stones affect different jobs differently, especially regarding critical and连环 attack bonuses.

As for class-specific formulas in PVE, the calculation for each differs depending on weapon and class-specific mechanics.Deciding if web call is needed for formula answer

I think I don’t need to call the web again. The user wants an Excel formula version based on what was already given, so I can reuse existing details. But since my earlier response fetched web data, should I include citations? I’ll probably avoid web calls unless facts need updating — just focusing on formatting.

Organizing Excel formula setup and assumptions

I don’t need to use the web for this since it’s based on previously discussed formulas. I’ll just provide an Excel template and layout for the user. I’ll include assumptions like attack, defense, hit, skill power, etc. Also, I’ll explain inputs as decimal or percentage and format everything for easy use, with formulas for different cases.

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