audio source - Apple 3.5mm to usb dongle as dac - ...

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audio source - Apple 3.5mm to usb dongle as dac - headphone end of trrs to headphone and mic splitter - trrs audio cable - mic end of trrs to headphone and mic splitter - Apple 3.5mm to usb dongle as adc - audio record
Will this work?

विचार

Summarizing issues with the proposed setup

Using Apple's USB audio dongles for a recording path can work, but your setup is more complicated than needed. There are a few pitfalls:

  1. The dongle may not register as an input on certain devices.
  2. Quick mistakes with TRRS splitter wiring (CTIA vs OMTP).
  3. The headphone out signal may be too strong for the mic input, requiring attenuation.

Clarifying the answer to the user's question

Given the user’s setup, I'd lean towards saying "No" because standard Apple USB-C dongles on a Mac won’t register as a mic input. Most likely, they'd hit an issue where the computer doesn’t recognize the dongle as an input. If they want this to work, they'd need a different setup. But if using an iPhone, Lightning adapters would work properly as both input and output.

Confirming adapter behavior on iPhone versus Mac

I just checked, and it looks like Apple’s official Lightning to 3.5mm adapter works for input on iPhones. But third-party adapters might only support output, which is important to note. On a Mac, though, the same adapter might be limited to output, which is frustrating. This makes my general answer a bit more complicated.

Clarifying the adapter use cases

The user didn’t specify the devices, so I would explain both possibilities: "If you're using a Lightning/USB-C dongle to connect two phones or tablets, it could work—but you need a proper TRS-to-TRRS adapter, not two Y splitters. For a Mac, Apple's USB-C headphone jack adapter is output-only, so it won’t work to input audio. Also, be cautious with audio levels to avoid damaging your equipment."

Thought for 2m 6s

उत्तर

Short answer: probably not in the way you’ve drawn it, and even if you get some audio, it’ll be fiddly and unreliable. Let’s unpack why and what would actually work.


1. The big blocker: what the Apple dongles actually do

There are a few different “Apple 3.5mm ⇄ USB” style dongles in the world, and they don’t all behave the same.

a) Apple Lightning → 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter

On an iPhone/iPad with Lightning, the official Apple Lightning-to-3.5 mm adapter does support microphone input when you plug in a TRRS headset or TRRS mic adapter. Apple’s own docs and third-party guides explicitly talk about using it with external mics. (RØDE Help)

So on iOS, this dongle can act as:

  • DAC (digital → analog, for headphones), and
  • ADC (analog mic → digital, from the TRRS mic pin)

b) Apple USB-C → 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter

On Macs, this adapter generally appears as output-only. There’s an Apple Support Community thread where someone tried to use it as an audio input device in GarageBand, and macOS only exposed it as an output. (Apple Support Community)

So on a Mac (and often on other USB-C hosts):

  • It’s a DAC only (headphone out).
  • There’s no usable mic/ADC side presented to the OS.

If your “ADC end” is a Mac with the USB-C headphone adapter:
👉 Your chain cannot work, because the Mac never sees a mic input from that dongle at all.


2. The TRRS splitters / cable: wiring weirdness

Your proposed chain:

audio source
→ Apple 3.5 mm ↔ USB dongle as DAC
headphone end of TRRS–to–headphone+mic splitter
→ TRRS audio cable
mic end of TRRS–to–headphone+mic splitter
→ Apple 3.5 mm ↔ USB dongle as ADC
→ recording

Conceptually, you’re trying to do:

  • Headphone out of device A
    → get onto the mic pin of device B’s TRRS input
    → device B records it as microphone audio.

That idea is fine. People do something similar with adapters like the RØDE SC4/TRS→TRRS mic adapter into a phone’s TRRS jack. (RØDE Microphones)

But your exact wiring has a few traps:

  1. TRS vs TRRS mismatch
    Those “headphone & mic” Y-splitters usually break one TRRS jack into:

    • 3-pole TRS headphone jack (L/R/GND)
    • 3-pole TRS mic jack (mic/GND, sometimes with bias)

    Plugging a TRRS cable into a TRS jack sort of “works”, but the extra ring gets either ignored or shorted with ground depending on how the contacts land. (Wikipedia)

    • You might lose one channel,
    • Or short parts of the signal,
    • Or get weird mono/phase issues.
  2. You’re relying on the splitter wiring to cross-route correctly
    For this to behave as you intend, the splitter on the “record” end has to:

    • Take what arrives on the TRRS cable’s headphone pins
    • Then somehow spit that out on the mic TRS jack,
    • And then the Apple dongle has to treat that as the mic line.

    Most cheap Y-splitters are not designed to be used “backwards” like that, and the mapping may not line up the way you think.

  3. Level and impedance mismatch
    You’re feeding a headphone/line-level output into a tiny electret mic input:

    • Mic inputs expect very low level (millivolts) plus DC bias.
    • Headphone outputs are much hotter (hundreds of millivolts/volts).

    It won’t usually damage anything, but it’s extremely easy to clip/distort unless you keep the source volume very low.


3. When could something like this work?

It can work in a more controlled form if:

  1. Your recording device is an iPhone/iPad using an official Lightning → 3.5 mm adapter, and iOS is actually using the TRRS mic input. (RØDE Help)
  2. You use the correct TRS→TRRS mic adapter on the recording side (e.g. a RØDE SC4 or similar), not a random headphone/mic splitter. (B&H Photo Video)
  3. You run simple cabling:
    • Source device’s headphone out (or Apple DAC dongle)
    • → 3.5 mm TRS cable
    • → TRS-to-TRRS mic adapter (SC4-type)
    • → Lightning/USB-C headphone adapter
    • → recording device.

That’s the common recipe used for:

  • Sending mixer/recorder output into a phone for livestreams,
  • Recording camera audio into a phone, etc.

Your proposed “two splitters + TRRS cable + two Apple dongles” is just an over-complicated, less predictable version of that.


4. So, will your exact chain work?

Realistically:

  • If the ADC side is a Mac using the Apple USB-C → 3.5 mm headphone jack adapter:
    No. The dongle doesn’t expose any input device to macOS; it’s output-only. (Apple Support Community)

  • If both sides are iPhones/iPads with Lightning 3.5 mm adapters, and you wire everything just right and keep levels low:

    • You might get audio through, but:
      • The splitter + TRRS cable wiring is fragile and easy to get wrong.
      • Expect mono only, odd levels, and a lot of trial-and-error.

So, I’d personally treat the answer as:

“Not reliably, and not in a way I’d recommend.”


5. What I’d do instead

Depending on what gear you actually have / want to connect:

Option A – Simple “headphone out → phone mic in”

For sending audio from any device with a headphone out into a phone/tablet:

  1. Source device:
    • Built-in headphone jack or Apple DAC dongle for output.
  2. Cable:
    • Plain 3.5 mm TRS (stereo) cable.
  3. Recording side:
    • TRS-to-TRRS mic adapter (RØDE SC4-type). (RØDE Microphones)
    • Then into the phone’s Lightning/USB-C headphone adapter.

That’s it. No Y-splitters needed.

Option B – Use a small USB audio interface

If you’re going computer ↔ computer/phone and want something cleaner:

  • Get a cheap USB audio interface (even the little USB “sound card” dongles that have separate mic and headphone jacks).
  • Treat it like this:
    • Source device → USB DAC/headphone out → 3.5 mm/TRS cable → USB interface line/mic in → Recording device.

Far simpler, predictable, and you get proper level controls.


If you tell me which exact Apple dongles and which devices are on each end (Mac, iPhone, iPad, etc.), I can sketch the minimum-cable version that will actually work for your setup.

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