Cambio de límites en integrales
Créé le : 11 janvier 2025
Créé le : 11 janvier 2025
Examining integral limits
I’m considering how reversing integration limits negates the integral, shown through Riemann integral limits.
Deriving integrals
I’m piecing together the integral from a to b and its reverse, showing the inverse relationship. This approach ties into the fundamental theorem for clarity.
4초 동안 Thought about reversing integral limits
Below is a common rigorous approach, first using the additivity property of integrals (which follows from the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus) and then connecting it to the sign change. I’ll outline two proofs—one that uses a very short “algebraic” argument once we trust a few fundamental properties of integrals, and one that uses a more “partition-based” argument that can be seen as a direct consequence of how Riemann sums work.
We start from one of the most important properties of definite integrals:
Additivity of integrals: If , then
Now observe what happens if in that property we set . We then have:
But (the integral over an interval of zero length is zero). Hence,
Rearranging gives:
That’s it—we have shown algebraically that reversing the limits multiplies the integral by .
If we prefer something that looks closer to the definition via Riemann sums, we can argue as follows. Let be a partition of the interval where . For a Riemann sum, we pick sample points and form
As we refine the partition (, mesh size ), .
Now consider the interval (i.e., “backwards”). A partition of in the usual sense is . However, if you insist on always writing partitions in increasing order, you can view a partition of simply by writing the same points in reverse:
but to traverse from down to , each sub-interval “goes backward.” Concretely,
Hence, if you wrote the Riemann sum in the same left-to-right order but conceptually are “going backward,” each term in the sum would gain a factor of . In the limit, this negative factor persists:
This again shows, but now in a partition-based manner, that reversing the limits negates the integral.
Your question mentions being confused because “the area under the curve from to is the same as from to .” It’s true that geometrically, the region in the plane spanned by from to is the same as the region spanned by from to . However, in integral calculus, we attach an orientation or direction to the integral—so it’s more akin to signed area. Traversing an interval left-to-right is considered the positive direction, whereas right-to-left is negative.
In short, definite integrals are not purely “the area under a curve” in the everyday sense—they are signed. This sign convention is consistent with many deeper theorems in analysis and also underlies the idea that , which likewise changes sign if you swap and .
Using additivity and the fact , we get:
which directly implies
Using the definition via Riemann sums, one sees that reversing the interval introduces a negative increment instead of . This leads the limit to differ by an overall factor of .
These proofs show mathematically perfectly that reversing the limits of a definite integral multiplies its value by .
Reversing integration limits
When reversing integration limits, the integral's sign changes, illustrating the concept of signed area and the significance of order in integrals.
Connecting integral concepts
Integrals, as limits of Riemann sums and differences of antiderivatives, involve orientation and signed measures, ensuring the fundamental theorem of calculus' unique conditions are met.
Emphasizing orientation
Integrals incorporate 'signed area' instead of absolute values to ensure consistent formulas for the fundamental theorem of calculus and indefinite integrals, highlighting the mathematical orientation integral to the concept.
Emphasizing orientation
It's interesting to see that defining integrals with absolute values eliminates orientation, undermining consistent calculus definitions and geometric links. Reversing order also disrupts these principles.
Emphasizing function orientation
Piecing together, the sign of (x_i - x_{i-1}) ensures consistent orientation, preserving the fundamental theorem of calculus and effectively measuring accumulation and direction in calculus and physics.
10초 동안 Thought about integral definition and orientation
아래 설명은 “왜 적분을 정의할 때 구간 길이를 로 안 쓰고 로 쓰는지”, 그리고 “왜 적분 구간을 뒤집으면 부호가 바뀌는지”를 조금 더 ‘근본적인’ 관점에서 다룹니다.
먼저 우리가 흔히 를 “와 -축이 만드는 면적”이라고 부르기는 하지만, 사실 ‘적분’은 방향(Orientation)이 들어간 누적량으로 정의됩니다.
즉, 적분은 “단순 면적”이라기보다는 **“(방향성을 가진) 면적 또는 누적량”**으로 정의되어 있기 때문에, 구간을 뒤집으면 부호가 바뀌는 것은 ‘정의’ 차원에서 자연스럽습니다.
만약 를 “면적의 절댓값”처럼 정의했다면, 를 해도 똑같은 (양수) 값이 나오겠죠. 그러나 그렇게 하면 아래에서 볼 ‘기본정리(미적분학의 기본정리)’ 같은 핵심 성질들이 깨져버립니다.
미적분학의 기본정리는
를 말합니다.
즉, 적분 구간이 인지 인지에 따라 결과가 달라져야 기본정리에서 말하는
가 일관성 있게 유지됩니다.
기본정리에 의해, 어떤 인 원시함수가 있을 때,
그렇다면 를 계산해 보면,
여기서 보이듯이, 적분 구간을 뒤집으면 값에 음(-)부호가 붙습니다.
이것이 적분을 “부호 있는 누적”으로 정의했을 때, 가장 깔끔하고 연속적으로 설명됩니다.
적분은 “누적”을 표현합니다. 그런데 누적에도 방향이 있습니다. 예를 들어 물리에서,
이처럼 방향까지 표현하려면, 부분구간 길이를 로 처리해버리면 안 되고, “(끝점 - 시작점)” 그대로 두어서 “양의 방향이냐, 음의 방향이냐”를 구분해야 합니다.
리만합(Riemann sum)을 생각해봅시다.
즉, 각각의 ‘미소(미세) 구간 ’에 대해 방향성이 반영되어야 하고, 이것이 최종적인 적분의 부호를 결정합니다. 순수 면적만 누적하고 싶다면 절댓값을 씌우면 되지만, 그러면 “오른쪽에서 왼쪽으로 가는 과정”이 모두 그냥 양수로 합쳐져버려, 위에서 말한 물리적 관점이나 기본정리 관점이 다 깨져버리게 됩니다.
정의 자체가 ‘방향(Orientation)’이 포함된 누적량이기 때문
미적분학의 기본정리와 일관성을 맞추기 위해
절댓값으로 정의하면, 이 모든 성질이 망가진다
정리하자면, 적분은 “왼쪽에서 오른쪽으로 (또는 작은 에서 큰 로) 갈 때”를 **‘기준’**으로 하여 양(+) 방향으로 삼고, 그 반대로 갈 때는 음(-) 방향으로 잡는 **“부호가 있는 누적량”**으로 정의됩니다.
이 방식으로 정의해야 미분과 적분이 서로 딱 들어맞고, 우리가 원하는 (물리, 공학, 수학) 이론이 깔끔하게 돌아갑니다.
이 모든 것이 **“왜 적분을 그렇게(방향을 살려) 정의하느냐?”**에 대한 가장 근본적인 이유입니다.
“방향이 붙어야 미분과 적분이 서로 맞물린다.”라고 이해하시면 좋겠습니다.
Investigating the negative sign
I’m working through the concept of the negative sign when reversing integration bounds, emphasizing the fundamental theorem of calculus and its antiderivative.
Understanding net change
I'm thinking through how integrating from to and reversing the bounds results in a negative integral. This negative sign aligns with the net change's orientation.
Mapping orientation
I’m examining how reversing integration bounds aligns with the orientation of net change, comparing it to summing areas of vertical rectangles from left to right. This helps clarify the concept further.
Recognizing the sign flip
Reversing integration bounds gives a negative result, aligning with the orientation of net change. This negative sign is a fundamental consequence of the integral's orientation.
Connecting orientation
Reversing integration bounds consistently alters the sign, as it aligns with the net change's orientation. This principle aligns with the fundamental theorem of calculus.
18초 동안 Thought about integral sign reversal
Below is a more “from first principles” explanation of why reversing the limits of integration introduces a minus sign, but without just saying “memorize it.” We will use the idea of constructing a function (which will turn out to be an antiderivative of ) and see how its values naturally give us the integral from one point to another. From that construction, we will see very explicitly why swapping the endpoints reverses the sign.
Let’s define a function by picking some fixed point (think of it as a “reference point”), and then writing
This means: is the “accumulated area” (with sign!) of as goes from up to .
In any case, is well-defined once is integrable.
A key result (the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, Part 1) says that if is continuous, then . In other words:
This theorem is profound because it links differentiation and integration. But more importantly for our question, it tells us:
,
since can be written as
Hence, we identify .
Now let’s look at . By exactly the same reasoning,
But notice:
Since , we immediately see
That’s it: the minus sign emerges directly from the fact that , so switching and gives . This is a purely algebraic consequence once we define that way.
You asked: “Aren’t we just summing little rectangle areas (Riemann sums)? Why does summing them from right to left flip the sign?”
When we define a Riemann sum on :
we do not take the absolute value . Instead, we literally use . If , that difference is positive and contributes positively; if we were to swap the order and go from to , each little piece becomes , which is negative of .
Thus, when we sum up from right to left (that is, if the partition is traversed in decreasing order), each sub-interval’s width is negative, and so the total sum becomes the negative of what it was when going left to right.
Because we want consistency with the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. That theorem yields
If we had defined the integral using absolute values of widths, then would no longer come out to . We would lose the beautiful statement that is exactly the net change .
Put differently, to match the idea of “net change” (rather than “absolute accumulation”), we need the orientation to matter. And that orientation is exactly why instead of .
Either viewpoint leads us to the same conclusion that reversing endpoints introduces a minus sign. This is not a random convention—it is forced if we want the integral to measure net change in a consistent way with derivatives.
This derivation shows that the minus sign is not arbitrary nor something to “just memorize.” It is an inevitable outcome of how is constructed to be an antiderivative of , combined with the fundamental theorem linking integrals and derivatives. We do not use absolute differences in the Riemann sum because that would break the key property that .
Hence, the most fundamental reason is that the integral represents net (oriented) change rather than just “the size of stacked rectangles.” That orientation is built in mathematically through the difference , and it precisely explains why reversing the limits of integration introduces a minus sign.